I listened to a talk by Sherri Dew. It is about 30 minutes long. I wish I had heard and listened to this talk 30 years ago. But so much for what is water under the bridge. This is an excelent talk. I wish I knew how to download the video here but I don't know enough about that kind of stuff to make it work. You will just have to go to the link and download it yourself. I promise it will be worth every minute that it takes you to download and listen to.